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1. newretirement.com - August 31, 2009

Great article. It really clears some of the grey areas people are dealing in with their IRAs

2. Paul Smudski - September 8, 2009

Very nicely put, Jeff. Real Estate investors can be a very creative bunch, and can start getting very creative when they first learn about the rules of a truly self-directed IRA. It’s almost natural for them (us!)to start thinking about how they can skirt the rules to benefit themselves. It’s an instinct that needs to be suppressed with this kind of education. I try to warn all my investor friends about avoiding these pitfalls. Even when I do lecture on it, it doesn’t always get through.

I had a colleague recently tell me, in an email, that he and his brother were going to use his brother’s IRA money to rehab a house they both owned. Both would profit from it, too. I was on the phone with them in under a minute to make sure he didn’t do that. He subsequently found another investor willing to lend from his IRA and they are doing the project legally now.

My investor friend apparently got confused with the fact that siblings aren’t listed as disqualified individuals in the law and decided that he could do this with his brother. If he was just borrowing from his brother for his own project, I probably would have let that go, but they were both going to profit from the project which definitely made it a prohibited transaction.

By the way, how do you feel about whether a family member, who is not on the lineal line of descent, is a disqualified person or not? It has been my impression since learning about Self Directed IRA Prohibited Transaction rules that my siblings, cousins, aunts and uncles, nieces and nephews are all eligible for trasacting with my IRA and I theirs. What are the rulings on this?

Thank you!

— Paul Smudski

3. Jeff Nabers - September 8, 2009

Yes, the root problem with PT confusion is that most of the major players (especially the self-directed IRA custodians that have been at it for a decade or two) spend a great deal of time explaining the first 4 PT rules and don’t explain (or possibly understand) the remaining 2 rules. The entire topic of PTs is then misunderstood by the vast majority of people involved in transacting with or researching self-directed IRAs.

As far as siblings and other non-disqualified person family members transacting with your IRA (or you with theirs), it is okay as long as the IRA accountholder is making the direction decision solely for the benefit of the IRA. In the above sentence I said “OR you with theirs” rather than “AND you with theirs” because the latter would imply a benefit swapping scenario which, as discussed in the post, does trigger a prohibited transaction.

Yes, fully understanding and complying with PT rules is a challenge for real estate people because real estate has a much stronger semblance of free enterprise, and thus real estate people develop mental/strategic habits that are normally fine, but they often don’t fly with the PT rules for IRAs and 401(k) plans.

I’m glad I could help :-)

– Jeff

4. Paul Smudski - September 9, 2009

Thank you, Jeff. It has helped!

— Paul

5. Sarah - October 6, 2009

I am interested in purchasing precious metals with my IRA-LLC. What type of reporting regulations do I have to comply with? Financial statements? Inventory reports?

6. Jeff Nabers - October 8, 2009

Hi, Sarah. The best way to learn about how to run your IRA LLC will be to call our office at 877-903-2220. :-)

– Jeff

7. Ron - November 16, 2009

Jeff,
I have a checkbook IRA LLC that was set up for me where I am the manager and the only owners are my wife’s and my SDIRA’s. I only have invested in DOT’s so far. As you can imagine, I need to foreclose on one which has land for collateral. The land is in a desirable area and I am being advised that I can hire a builder to build on it. Is this true? Also, does the DOL or IRS have issues with the existence of these checkbook IRA’s? Thank you in advance for your time.

8. Jeff Nabers - November 16, 2009

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